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Ziggy and Eric have returned as promised to bring you another in-depth look into the universe of the one and only James Bond, 007!
In this, our third episode, we take a close look at two more films; Thunderball, and Never Say Never Again. One an “official” Eon production and the other a one-off attempt to hijack the franchise, but both based off the same story.

Before starting, we take a few moments to remember a great pioneer in the genre of film criticism Roger Ebert. We both give your passing two thumbs down.

We then talk about the saga of lawsuits that eventually made it possible for Never Say Never Again to ever be made.

We of course go in-depth on each movie to talk about the story, the acting, the gadgets, the girls, the villains, etc…

So sit back with a shaken martini, secure your nuclear weapons, and enjoy!


7 Responses to Episode #3: “Thunderball & Never Say Never Again”

  1. Peter says:

    I was interested by your take on the McClory/Thunderball controversy. Although I can’t help but point out that it wasn’t necessarily McClory who created the Thunderball characters and basically wrote the original screenplay. From what I’ve researched, it was a collaborative effort between him, Fleming, and Jack Whittingham. Whittingham seems to have developed much more of the scripts than the others, but ended up being the one screwed out of the settlement and future movie deals. At this point, he will likely never get the credit he deserves.

    Thanks for the podcast, though. It’s very enlightening!

    Check out my personal Bond blog for more on the history of Thunderball:

  2. Ziggy says:

    Hi, Peter –

    Thanks for listening, and for digging into the back catalog! Whittingham certainly got shafted; no question. This was one of those where the squeaky wheel’s drama tantrums got the airtime. Looking back, as we’ve long since discovered that longer runtimes don’t seem to bother our audience, I’d like to have taken more time on the third, quieter man.

    Thank you also for sharing; very cool! A Vesper to you, sir!


    • Paul says:

      Ziggy, I defiantly agree exploring Jack Whittingham’s story would be interesting. Although I haven’t read this, there is a book by Robert Sellers called Battle for Bond: The Genesis of Cinema’s Greatest Hero, that goes into the story of the Thunderball controversy. Every one talks about the Kevin McClory/Ian Fleming Case but Jack Whittingham story gets put the the wayside. This may be an interesting topic for a future podcast. Any thoughts?

      • Ziggy says:

        I plan show content quite a ways out and have things pretty well blueprinted for the rest of this year, but don’t be surprised if a more detailed look at things comes up in 2015. 😉


  3. Peppermill says:

    Peter, what a fantastic blog! Thanks for bringing it to my attention.

  4. David Yung says:

    Only got into HMSP recently and am listening to these in order of broadcast. Such fun.

    The Connery/Seagal thing? Wrist not ribs apparently.

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